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【比赛讨论贴】罗马 1:1 乌迪内斯(24楼开始为赛后评论)

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76#
发表于 2009-3-8 01:54:02 | 只看该作者

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Doni - 6.0: Aside from pick the ball out of the net once, Doni had very few saves to make this afternoon. Reasonably sound in coming off his line.

Motta - 7.5: Once again very impressive. Created an early disallowed goal for Menez, and skipped past Pasquale on many occasions. The Di Natale assist did come from his side, but Motta can't really be criticised.

Mexes - 5.0: Very poor this afternoon. Twice allowed Udinese to have excellent headed chances, and also should have conceded a penalty for a blatant handball.

Panucci - 6.5: Solid performance from the 35-year-old veteran, who remained calm and collected while those around him were losing their heads.

Riise - 5.5: Excellent against Inter last week, Riise did not really show up this afternoon. Contributed nothing going forward, and had the odd problem against Floro Flores.

De Rossi - 4.0: Should have led by example, but failed to do so in every sense. Passing was inaccurate, and he then got himself stupidly sent off on 67 minutes for dissent. May have been feeling blue due to the flu, but that was no excuse to lose his head and see red. Off to bed!

Pizarro - 6.0: Sprayed a few passes around the pitch in the first half, but did not even make it to half time after suffering an ankle injury. A potentially huge blow ahead of the Arsenal game.

Menez - 6.5: Started the game well, and had a goal disallowed goal on 20 minutes. With a lack of minutes under his belt, the Frenchman began to tire and he was substituted.

Brighi - 7.0: Never stopped running all game, and was Roma's most consistent man in the middle-of-the-park. Set-up the early chance for Taddei.

Taddei - 6.5: Quiet for long periods of the game, but did have some inspired moments, such as when he released Montella through on goal. Squandered a fine early opportunity.

Baptista - 5.5: Began the afternoon confidently, but soon lost his way. Just far too inconsistent is 'The Beast'.

Substitutes

Montella - 6.0, Vucinic - 8.0, Cicinho - N/A

UDINESE

Handanovic - 6.0: Very dodgy on crosses this afternoon, and could have been punished at the end. Did make a one-on-one save from Montella though.

Zapata - 6.0: Aside from allowing Vucinic to slip past him for Roma's goal, Zapata was mostly solid and powerful. Missed one great opportunity down the other end though.

Coda - 7.0: Linked up well with Felipe at the back, and comfortably dealt with Baptista for most of the game.

Felipe - 8.0: Showed today why he was such a highly-rated talent a few years ago. Made a number of classy interceptions, and scored Udinese's goal down the other end. Can he stay fit though?

Pasquale - 5.5: Udinese's weak-link. Fortunate not to be punished by Taddei for an early error, and was regularly beaten by Motta, particularly in the first half.

Inler - 6.0: Not performing to the same levels of last season, but held his own in Rome. Created one fine chance for Zapata, and also should have won a penalty.

D'Agostino - 6.0: Knocked a few passes around the pitch, but was not a major influence, even if his set-pieces were good.

Asamoah - 6.5: Has been playing well lately, and did his reputation no harm this afternoon. Showed good energy.

Pepe - 6.0: Hard-working, tirelessly moving up and down the right flank all afternoon. The end product was often lacking though. Is Pepe really of international quality?

Floro Flores - 7.0: Very lively today. Roasted Riise on 17 minutes and shot into the side-netting, but comically squandered a golden headed chance when he mistimed his jump.

Di Natale - 7.0: Not at his explosive best, but still played a huge part in this game. Created Felipe's goal, and also put a chance on a plate for Floro Flores.

Substitutes

Sanchez - 6.0, Quagliarella - N/A

Carlo Garganese
77#
发表于 2009-3-8 01:55:36 | 只看该作者
搞笑一下,裁判想我都那么帮你们了,两个点球没判,你小子居然在这个无关痛痒的判罚中这么激动还骂人,下去得了

[ 本帖最后由 fun1023 于 2009-3-8 01:56 编辑 ]
78#
发表于 2009-3-8 02:00:09 | 只看该作者
<P>说实话,我是实在害怕而且不敢想象罗马参加不了下赛季欧冠的情形。倒不是荣誉的事,我们不像人家有钱的俱乐部,欧冠的收益对罗马太太重要了。实在不敢想象少了欧冠的收益,罗马的生存情况得有多艰辛。 </P>
<P>09,10合同到期的球员那么多,11年合同到期的还有3个及其重要的球员,目前续约都没进展,我想高层可能也想等赛季结束后看看能不能打欧冠再决定怎么续约。如果打不了欧冠,估计罗马又得进行一次推倒重建!</P>

[ 本帖最后由 xiaobaitu 于 2009-3-8 02:05 编辑 ]
79#
发表于 2009-3-8 07:56:58 | 只看该作者
平心而论,小飞机表现的比巴普熊要好的多,为什么解约?难道就因为浪费两次机会吗?<br>
原帖由 <i>xiaobaitu</i> 于 2009-3-8 01:12 发表 <a href="http://www.romabbs.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=686114&amp;ptid=22787" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.romabbs.com/images/common/back.gif" alt="" border="0"></a>
踢得什么玩意,罗马现在有什么资格为冠军杯分心保留实力呀?对罗马而言,剩下的每场联赛都比对阿森纳重要得多。这赛季要是进不了前四的话,会对未来几个赛季的球队建设产生影响。
别说裁判,在上半场梅克斯那下其实 ...
80#
发表于 2009-3-8 08:08:04 | 只看该作者
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原帖由 <I>hotlt</I> 于 2009-3-8 07:56 发表 <A href="http://romabbs.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=686168&amp;ptid=22787" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://romabbs.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 平心而论,小飞机表现的比巴普熊要好的多,为什么解约?难道就因为浪费两次机会吗?
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<P>解约更多的来自气话,不过蒙特拉确实已经不行了。诚然,这场比赛巴普的状态是更糟,但起码一个赛季下来还能有不少亮点,蒙特拉呢?哪次上场起作用了?真不如奥卡卡呢!</P>
<P>别老说什么夺冠功臣的,罗马也算是对得起他了,从06年开始,也白白养了他4年了,还让俱乐部怎么样?而且他踢得好的时候罗马同样也是付工资加奖金的,球员理应踢好。</P>
<P>罗马不是有钱的俱乐部,不可能做到又有人情味又能良好的自身发展。两者之间也只能选择发展。巴萨,皇马够有钱,有名的了吧?在对待里瓦尔多,耶罗等人的时候又是怎么的呢?</P>
81#
发表于 2009-3-8 09:43:51 | 只看该作者
小白兔,我想说蒙特拉和俱乐部之间谁亏欠谁不必争,就蒙特拉那两个机会球没进,这能全怪他吗?蒙特拉这个赛季在罗马总共上场时间加起来超过180分钟没有,印象是没有,连替补上场都没机会,从他跟57之间一比就知道,57替补上场一看就是个主力球员的状态,打的比赛多,无论是与队友的配合还是个人技术的发挥相当自信自如,蒙特拉上场非常的生疏,起码对正式比赛的感觉非常少,他完全靠他多年积累的经验在踢球,既然光头从不用他,你也不要指望偶尔那么替补出场会有出奇的效果,这场不是皮萨罗提前下场,我还真不知道蒙特拉还要在板凳上呆到什么时候。
82#
发表于 2009-3-8 09:59:59 | 只看该作者
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原帖由 <I>得尔维奇奥</I> 于 2009-3-8 09:43 发表 <A href="http://romabbs.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=686174&amp;ptid=22787" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://romabbs.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> 小白兔,我想说蒙特拉和俱乐部之间谁亏欠谁不必争,就蒙特拉那两个机会球没进,这能全怪他吗?蒙特拉这个赛季在罗马总共上场时间加起来超过180分钟没有,印象是没有,连替补上场都没机会,从他跟57之间一比就知道,5 ...
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<P>如果说他那个单刀是对方门将太神奇的话,我也就认了。很清楚的可以看见,那个单刀他自己都没信心能打进,既然这样,我觉得他退役得了。他凭什么拿着全队第三高新?如果队里没他的话,我觉得俱乐部不会放奥卡卡走。</P>
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<P>另外我承认对于这场比赛我是有些输不起了。如果换成冠军杯对阿森纳的比赛,没进也就没进了,即使被淘汰的话大不了明年再来。(什么决赛场地在罗马都是扯淡)。我实在不敢想象进不了冠军杯的话,罗马的财政会成什么样。</P>
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83#
发表于 2009-3-8 10:02:38 | 只看该作者
DDR的脾气得改改,不能急得乱了方寸,还要懂得感恩,毕竟没有比逃过点球更幸运的事了。
84#
发表于 2009-3-8 10:03:01 | 只看该作者
唉~~~多么好的追分的机会啊
被浪费了[em09]
85#
发表于 2009-3-8 10:08:30 | 只看该作者
自己没踢好啊,郁闷,希望为冠军杯攒RP了[em11]
86#
发表于 2009-3-8 10:48:38 | 只看该作者
梅内兹对抗能力太差,一碰就倒,很难想象派上他去打英超猛男[em04]
巴普蒂斯塔前场根本拿不出球,好几次停球失误,现在进攻基本就靠一个武器
87#
发表于 2009-3-8 10:49:01 | 只看该作者
职业球员要控制自己的脾气,所以不该骂裁判,可TMD他是职业的裁判吗!!!
88#
发表于 2009-3-8 11:00:41 | 只看该作者
原帖由 <I>得尔维奇奥</I> 于 2009-3-8 01:09 发表 <A href="http://www.romabbs.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=686106&amp;ptid=22787" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.romabbs.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A>
<DIV class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_686106>从这场看,罗马最大的问题还是在进攻方面,跑动接应太少了,技术能力在前场又不够用,我发觉在罗马当边锋太不容易,球一拉到边上,就让边锋一个人单干,旁边都没人去接应,或者没人去跑空挡拉开人家防线,你看看塔代伊和梅内斯,哪次在边路进攻不是孤单影之,一个人面对3个人防守,也就塔代伊那边稍好点,小莫塔跑动还是很积极,经常去跑空挡或者去接应,都说蒙特拉错过了进球机会,可我要赞扬他,蒙特拉的上场让罗马的进攻才真正活起来,他的拿球,分球起到了托蒂的作用,57的那个进球蒙特拉有一半功劳,首先是他传给57,可他这会儿并没有傻站,而是接着高速直插对方右路的空当,使得对方的一个防守队员跟着他跑,那个队员跟蒙特拉跑开了,禁区弧地带就出了瞬间的空挡,57也就把握了这个时机,横向带球往空挡走,有了射门的机会。</DIV>
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原帖由 <I>得尔维奇奥</I> 于 2009-3-8 09:43 发表 <A href="http://www.romabbs.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=686174&amp;ptid=22787" target=_blank><IMG alt="" src="http://www.romabbs.com/images/common/back.gif" border=0></A> </P>
<DIV class=t_msgfont id=postmessage_686174>小白兔,我想说蒙特拉和俱乐部之间谁亏欠谁不必争,就蒙特拉那两个机会球没进,这能全怪他吗?蒙特拉这个赛季在罗马总共上场时间加起来超过180分钟没有,印象是没有,连替补上场都没机会,从他跟57之间一比就知道,57替补上场一看就是个主力球员的状态,打的比赛多,无论是与队友的配合还是个人技术的发挥相当自信自如,蒙特拉上场非常的生疏,起码对正式比赛的感觉非常少,他完全靠他多年积累的经验在踢球,既然光头从不用他,你也不要指望偶尔那么替补出场会有出奇的效果,这场不是皮萨罗提前下场,我还真不知道蒙特拉还要在板凳上呆到什么时候。</DIV>
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[ 本帖最后由 罗马飞鱼 于 2009-3-8 11:03 编辑 ]
89#
发表于 2009-3-8 11:19:47 | 只看该作者

且看我狼板凳深度

本来想重开一贴的,现在想算了。还是就从这场比赛来看吧。如果就目前队内的人员,全部都是健康的话,光头会排什么阵容呢?我想大概是 doni/riise, mexes, juan, cicinho(c77)/ddr, bridge, perrotta(p7), taddei/vucinic, totti(8p). 括号中的球员也应该算作主力,那么剩下来的 artuor, t22,diamutene, loria,motta, p2, A8,menez, montella,应该是很难拿到首发的。 artuor怎么样,其实不好说,因为他出现的场次还不够多,表现可以说中规中矩,也算对得起第一替补的位置了。 tonetto,年纪的确大了,不过他出场的几场比赛,表现并没有多大的失误,和以前一样的生猛,不过大家都知道,顶一两场还行,时间长了也不是靠得住。应该算是靠得住的替补。再说loria,这个同志早被坛子里的口水淹没,而且更要命的是,他还总是在不遗余力的证明坛子内的口水的价值,现在我想,就是上dia这样的后辈,估计他也拿不到机会了,更何况,现在P2也没什么问题。所以这个人几乎可以忽略。 dia,上来几场,看他的表现,身体灵活性和爆发力都不错,站位意识还行,就是有时有点莽撞,我觉得是比赛锻炼还不够,如果队里签下来的话,还是可以培养一下的。 motta,这几场比赛表现还是可以值得信赖的,不然光头也不会让其场场首发了。不过,似乎近来几场比赛,大家都往我队的左路来做文章,看来还是欺负生人啊。好在在t11的帮助之下,没出什么大错。即使他以后不能首发,也是一个很好的替补。关于P2,我觉得,经验还是在的,只是速度不行了。今场吃到黄牌就是速度明显跟不上所以才上手的,所以以后他应该主要打中卫,边路估计还是算了,要是上去了下不来怕会被打爆。他也是光头现在唯一可以依赖的中卫了。 A8,应该是主力的,但我觉得他就是一个十足的神经刀,发挥好的时候很妖,不好的时候几乎找不到人。但作为替补,还是可以的。 menez,四少之中最需要证明自己的了,感觉和全队的配合还不是很好。自己昨天左路拿球,威胁明显不如vucinic,对节奏的控制还是不行。昨天有一个晃开的机会,没有调整好射门就没了,几次传中也不如vucinic来得有威胁。相比nasri,还是差一些的。单就目前板凳深度,基本算是合格的替补。 montella,到现在还是没有进球,昨天的两个绝杀的机会想必大家都看到了,哪怕是3年前,那就完全不一样了。由于他不是那种属于拿球的前锋,因此门前的灵感和技术就更重要了,但是昨天我们都没有看到。小飞机,何时再起飞?因此,以现在的阵容,感觉替补还是不足以支撑起整个队伍的,想象一下我们要是像arsenal一般伤一批主力,比如,ddr,p20, v9,t10,是不是就会混迹于6名开外呢?而想想枪手,虽然不胜多场,但是也追得维拉屁股冒烟。真不知说何好了,光头要做的事情还是有很多啊~
90#
发表于 2009-3-8 11:23:37 | 只看该作者
小飞机已经做得挺好了,至少还贡献了一次助攻吧?罗马球员浪费机会都很厉害的,武器原来不也一样?只不过武器慢慢练出来了嘛!小飞机就没有那么幸运啦,只能垃圾时间上一下。
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