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6256#
发表于 2007-7-14 09:15:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用kobemc在2007-7-13 23:25:00的发言:

Fifa条款里面没有这一条  De sanctis是自由转会的吧,或者说是球队和他协商的吧

Fifa条款道是有这样一条:如果准备买断自己合同的球员,没有在赛季最后一场正式比赛前15天内通知俱乐部,那么即便合同不在保护期内,转会之后仍然会被禁赛4-6个月

诱导球员买断合同的俱乐部和经纪人也会有相应的机构进行处罚 比如纪律委员会 足球仲裁法庭

至于买断金额  Fifa的规定是

球员现有的工资 新俱乐部开的工资 球队付出的转会费

也就是 现在 在罗马 400w一年 国际开价 1000w一年 转会费 1800w/5=360w 加起来 基本就是买断费用

想买断 1800w一分也少不了

我看了你说的转会规则。有几个问题
1、上面的条款最新是2005年。但如大家所知的,最新国际足联是修改过这一条款的。所以新的条款内容到底是什么,还未可知。我们所知÷的,是针对买断条款的条件有修改

2、除了合同到期和双方协商解约,国际足联的转会规则中还列举了2种终止合同的情形:

1)第15条 Terminating a Contract for Sporting Just Cause
An established Professional who has, in the course of the Season, appeared in less than 10% of the Offi cial Matches in which his club has been involved may terminate his contract prematurely on the grounds of sporting just cause. Due consideration shall be given to the
player’s circumstances in the appraisal of such cases. The existence of sporting just cause shall be established on a case-by-case basis. In such a case, sporting sanctions shall not be imposed, though compensation may be payable. A Professional may only terminate his contract on this basis in the 15 days following the last Offi cial Match of the Season of the club for which he is registered.

因竞技原因终止合同。条件是:一个球员出场次数在该球队所有正式比赛的10%以下,有权凭借此条款终止合同。这种情况要做正确的考察。这种情况下,不会允许该球员为新东家上场,尽管转会费是要支付的。球员只有在俱乐部参加的最后一场正式比赛的15天之内提出才可以用。

2)第17条 Consequences of Terminating a Contract Without Just Cause
In all cases, the party in breach shall pay compensation. Subject to the provisions of Art. 20 and annex 4 in relation to Training Compensation, and unless otherwise provided for in the contract, compensation for breach shall be calculated with due consideration for the law of the country concerned, the specifi city of sport, and any other objective criteria. These criteria shall include, in particular, the remuneration and other benefi ts due to the player under the existing contract and/or the new contract, the time remaining on the existing contract up to a maximum of fi ve years, the fees and expenses paid or incurred by the Former Club (amortised over the term of the contract) and whether the contractual breach falls within a Protected Period.

这里就出现了保护期限。

第3款
In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall also be imposed on any player found to be in breach of contract during the Protected Period. This sanction shall be a restriction of four months on his eligibility to play in Offi cial Matches. In the case of aggravating circumstances, the restriction shall last six months. In all cases, these sporting sanctions shall take effect from the start of the following Season of the New Club. Unilateral breach without just cause or sporting just cause after the Protected Period will not result in sporting sanctions. Disciplinary measures may, however, be imposed outside of the Protected Period for failure to give due notice of termination (i.e. within fi fteen days following the last match of the Season). The Protected Period starts again when, while renewing the contract, the duration of the previous contract is extended.

除了给予补偿,允许任何在合同保护期内但违约了的球员上场比赛。但这个许可限制了他4个月内踢正式比赛的资格。要是情节严重,这个期限应延长至6个月。无论如何,允许该球员上场的许可只有在新俱乐部接下来的一个赛季才会生效。保护期限过后,没有just cause or sporting just cause的

6257#
发表于 2007-7-14 09:34:00 | 只看该作者

出去扬州南京镇江转了一周。。。。

肥皂剧还没结束。。。

6258#
发表于 2007-7-14 09:42:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用kobemc在2007-7-13 23:25:00的发言:

至于买断金额  Fifa的规定是

球员现有的工资 新俱乐部开的工资 球队付出的转会费

也就是 现在 在罗马 400w一年 国际开价 1000w一年 转会费 1800w/5=360w 加起来 基本就是买断费用

想买断 1800w一分也少不了

你所说的和我之前查看的05年FIFA修订的规则应该是同一个:

compensation for breach shall be calculated with due consideration for the law of
the country concerned, the specificity of sport, and any other objective
criteria. These criteria shall include, in particular, the remuneration and
other benefits due to the player under the existing contract and/or
the new contract, the time remaining on the existing contract up to a
maximum of five years, the fees and expenses paid or incurred by the
Former Club (amortised over the term of the contract) and whether
the contractual breach falls within a Protected Period.

终止合同一方需要赔偿的金额将参考所在国家的法律,体育的特性以及其他标准,这些标准特别包括:

原俱乐部与/或新俱乐部提供合同中的薪水及其他利益;(这里的"或"应该是针对终止合同但没有新俱乐部的情况)

现有合同的剩余时间(最长5年);

原俱乐部为球员付出的费用;

以及合同是否处于保护期.

//================================

但并不能这样得出18M的结论.

因为这些只是参考因素,赔偿金额并不等于它们的累加和.

6259#
发表于 2007-7-14 09:50:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用bleue在2007-7-14 0:54:00的发言:

进来的各位要吐就赶紧吐吧。老实说我翻译的过程中已经吐了很多回了

从没见过这么厚颜无耻,这么赤裸裸的恶毒的言论


 

呵呵,别太上火...我现在对Becali的言论已经习惯了.

他要是狗嘴里吐出象牙来了,我反而不适应.

[em09]
6260#
发表于 2007-7-14 10:05:00 | 只看该作者

另外,关于保护期:

Protected Period: a period of three entire Seasons or three years,
whichever comes first, following the entry into force of a contract, if
such contract was concluded prior to the 28th birthday of the Professional,
or to a period of two entire Seasons or two years, whichever
comes first, following the entry into force of a contract, if such contract
was concluded after the 28th birthday of the Professional.

合同的签订时间若在球员28周岁之前,受保护期为签定合同后的前3个整赛季或前3年(以先到的为准);若在28周岁之后,则是合同签定后的前2个整赛季或前2年(以先到的为准).

并没有是不是第一份合同的说法.所以Chivu的合同现在已不在受保护期.

6261#
发表于 2007-7-14 11:20:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用bleue在2007-7-14 0:55:00的发言:
要是罗马决定让球迷对齐沃喷射怒火,不让他保持平静,那么我们也可以自卫,不是吗?

这条最牛。。。
贝卡利那贱人的意思是,如果周末齐沃来集训,而球迷嘘它,朝它扔臭鸡蛋之类的,人家就有权自卫咧~

它还有脸来集训?

6262#
发表于 2007-7-14 15:26:00 | 只看该作者
罗马的球迷呢,来几个激进的,废了Y的,让他一辈子坐轮椅[em13]
6263#
发表于 2007-7-14 16:38:00 | 只看该作者
没有以前那么赤裸裸了啊
6264#
发表于 2007-7-14 16:46:00 | 只看该作者

贝卡里现在这个时候还在放p,说明这Y坐不住了,着急了

Chivu还是会卖掉的

6265#
发表于 2007-7-14 18:06:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用PERROTTA在2007-7-14 2:05:00的发言:

另外,关于保护期:

Protected Period: a period of three entire Seasons or three years,
whichever comes first, following the entry into force of a contract, if
such contract was concluded prior to the 28th birthday of the Professional,
or to a period of two entire Seasons or two years, whichever
comes first, following the entry into force of a contract, if such contract
was concluded after the 28th birthday of the Professional.

合同的签订时间若在球员28周岁之前,受保护期为签定合同后的前3个整赛季或前3年(以先到的为准);若在28周岁之后,则是合同签定后的前2个整赛季或前2年(以先到的为准).

并没有是不是第一份合同的说法.所以Chivu的合同现在已不在受保护期.

Fifa的资料里面没有第一份合同的限制

但是FM里面是有的,这可能是意大利方面的法规--如同买断必须去国外一样

6266#
发表于 2007-7-14 18:09:00 | 只看该作者

15号集训了吧 看他怎么活

6267#
发表于 2007-7-14 18:16:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用bleue在2007-7-14 0:55:00的发言:
要是罗马决定让球迷对齐沃喷射怒火,不让他保持平静,那么我们也可以自卫,不是吗?

这条最牛。。。
贝卡利那贱人的意思是,如果周末齐沃来集训,而球迷嘘它,朝它扔臭鸡蛋之类的,人家就有权自卫咧~

无比期待集训出现干架场面

6268#
发表于 2007-7-14 18:20:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用Antonio在2007-7-14 1:11:00的发言:

法国《足球》援引意大利方面的消息称,国米现在打算买下智利人Jimenez然后用他做搭头加一部分现金跟罗马交换齐沃,以打破目前的僵局

http://www.football.fr/fr/cmc/scanner/football/200728/as-roma-un-echange-chivu-jimenez-_140962.html


国鸡还没死心啊
6269#
发表于 2007-7-14 18:21:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用罗慕洛斯勒莫斯在2007-7-14 10:16:00的发言:

无比期待集训出现干架场面

哈哈,踢残丫的
6270#
发表于 2007-7-14 18:40:00 | 只看该作者
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