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pippa

意大利人一般都不太去国外的....

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weiiew

喜欢XX球队的叫球迷，喜欢XX球员的叫粉丝，为c18含冤的粉丝们，请不要把Roma球迷这个称号搬在自己头上，说到底，你丫不配！

pippa

以下是引用weiiew在2005-11-12 4:14:21的发言： 喜欢XX球队的叫球迷，喜欢XX球员的叫粉丝，为c18含冤的粉丝们，请不要把Roma球迷这个称号搬在自己头上，说到底，你丫不配！

挖塞, 未免太恐怖了吧~ 这样说的话 罗马也就只剩下一帮...."落井下石"的球迷... 恩啊....果然真球迷....怒赞啊怒赞...

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pippa

sports.it Spalletti: "Cassano giocherà con la Primavera" 11 11 2005 Luciano Spalletti non vuole più sentire parlare di Cassano e 'bacchetta' i giornalisti: "Mi sono rotto le scatole di parlare di Cassano - ha detto il tecnico - a qualsiasi cosa fa, gli viene dato troppo risalto. Non vi siete accorti per esempio che Alvarez è arrivato in ritardo per non aver letto gli orari di allenamento, che Montella è andato via prima per un impegno importante. I vostri riportini non vogliono molto bene alla Roma. Quelli che tentano di far solo casino non sono tifosi e non ci aiutano". Il tecncio toscano poi anticipa che il talento barese giocherà con la squadra Primavera: "Sabato Antonio giocherà insieme a Tommasi con la Primavera contro il Siena. Da parte nostra non ci vuole essere alcuna limitazione. Di soldi nel calcio ce ne sono sempre meno e si deve fare attenzione a disperderli. Sposare il progetto Roma significa avere disponibilità per tutto il gruppo". 光头表示，小卡将参加周六青年队同Siena的比赛，胡子也将参加，光头也将观察他们的表现。此外他还提到Alvarez因为看错时间而训练迟到和飞机因为约会而提前离开的事情。 光头还表示，他不想再三再四的跟记者朋友们探讨小卡问题了，呵呵。

pippa

Spalletti: Cassano could face Juve Saturday 12 November, 2005 关头表示，小卡将有可能在对juve一战登场。 他说：“我将通过周末比赛（和青年队那场）观察他的表现再做出我的决定。一切都有可能，况且他已经从踝伤中恢复过来。” 事实上，直到上周他还强调小卡不续约，就不能上场的说法。这个可能同FIGC介入调查封杀小卡一事有关。对此光头表示，权威部门有权利调查任何细节，罗马也会配合。我认为罗马没有作错什么，现在我们的预算少了所以更不能浪费。俱乐部将关注小卡事件的进一步发展，但球队是我作主。 他提到小卡可能登场，也强调这并非是一个必要措施，毕竟罗马在么有小卡的情况下刚刚拿到三连胜。不过光头表示“当然有小卡的球队肯定会更好，我将考虑如何合适的使用他。” 此外，他批评了记者对卡萨诺事件的炒作。 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Cassano could make his Roma comeback against the club he wants to join – Juventus – suggested Coach Luciano Spalletti.

“I will watch his behaviour leading up to that match and make my decisions,” confessed the tactician who had until this week insisted he would not field the player until he signed a new contract.

Cassano has been frozen out of the Giallorossi squad following this dispute and will be a free agent in the summer, when he’s expected to join his mentor Fabio Capello at Juve. In a bizarre twist of fate, he could make his return to first team football against the Bianconeri.

“Everything is possible. The player has recovered from an ankle injury and is coming off some unfortunate behaviour. As for the rest, one has to look at the club and the bigger picture.”

This loosening of Roma’s grip on the situation was sparked by the Players’ Association (AIC), who confirmed they were looking into the matter in a bid to resolve the deadlock.

“It is only right that the authorities pay attention to every detail, but Roma are happy to co-operate and I’m sure we have not acted incorrectly. Today there is less money in football and we have to be wary of wasting it. The club wants to see how Cassano’s situation can develop, but I make the team and that’s the way it will always be.”

Although Spalletti opened the door to a possible comeback for next weekend’s super clash, he also pointed out it wasn’t necessarily needed after three consecutive Serie A victories.

“I doubt I can be blamed for anything here, as the results come without Cassano. I am also convinced that a side with a Cassano who behaves professionally can be even better. My intention is to get him to play a certain way.”

There was further controversy on Friday, as the Italian international had a row with teammate Damiano Tommasi during a game with the youth team.

“You must understand that there are snitches here who report events and add a little twist to it in order to make it more dramatic,” explained Spalletti. “It has happened a few too many times and created a few problems, but I will fight this with everything I have. There are people who work at Roma and push certain stories rather than others.”

giallorossi

没比要上来先给人群区分区分，这个是球迷，那个是粉丝。说得有道理，球迷和粉丝还不都是一样。 至于落井下石一说，倒是颇为新颖。但罗马球迷从来都是卡萨诺的亲友团么？所以现在把背转向他是落井下石。嘿嘿。作为我个人，从来不是卡萨诺的个人球迷，喜欢他，只是因为他是罗马的人。如此而已。即使是个人球迷也没啥大不了，分那么多三五等干吗。只是因此反过来攻击罗马球迷如何如何就比较难解了，也许，人在争论中人都容易上火。 在这件事上，卡萨诺和罗马俱乐部在立场上是对立的。那么这些罗马球迷支持俱乐部，等于支持自己和自己的立场，何来落井下石一说。坚持自己的利益跟别人对立，叫做落井下石。伦理道德的大旗是让我们牺牲自己成全别人？如果那样，我是要落井下石到底的。为什么？因为我们不是傻子。 再，虽然一些人说卡萨诺的行为一再无可指责，我倒想起来了，对于经济问题严重的罗马俱乐部，卡萨诺的行为是不是落井下石？双重的标准。罗马当初对卡萨诺怎么好怎么厚道都是应该的，卡萨诺怎么不厚道怎么落井下石都是可以的。呵呵。我却不这样看。至少要公平对待。别指望着你打了我一巴掌后我还说打得好打得有理。 大家都少给对方扣些帽子，才不会发展为动辄恶语相向的地步。也许有人说最好反对者不要批评卡萨诺，要顾及别人的感情。而我这样看：你可能因为对卡萨诺的批评受到感情上的伤害，但我也因卡萨诺的行为和事件收到了感情上的伤害。我们经历从喜欢到不喜欢，从失望到绝望，所受的伤害不比一些因为批评受伤害的人少。但这也就是纯粹感情而已，那能怎么样？论坛不是大家来说话的么，不是来表达自己的喜好与否的么

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Sahala

楼上，好同志

CHIVE

pippa这个丫头 当个追星族还凑合 当个球迷远不够格!

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bleue

别相互扣帽子行不？删了。大家请就事论事好好分析，以理服人。

bleue

关于斯帕莱蒂的新闻发布会，我找了《罗马人报》，而不是粉饰太平的官方网站（意大利文的~），这个意思，与CHANNEL4的大相径庭。呵呵，有趣。 Spalletti: "Stufo dei "riportini"..."

E' stata una conferenza stampa "calda" quella odierna di Luciano Spalletti a Trigoria. Tra i giornalisti, in mattinata, era circolata una voce riguardo una presunta lite avvenuta tra Cassano e Tommasi. Appena il fatto è stato accennato dai cronisti a mister Spalletti in conferenza, il tecnico è andato su tutte le furie: “Queste cose accadono spessimo – ha detto - Anche Alvarez stamattina è arrivato in ritardo e c'è stata una piccola discussione, ma di quella non ne ha parlato nessuno. Ora è normale che Cassano catalizza più le attenzioni. Ci sono dei “riportini” che lavorano all'interno di Trigoria e raccontano queste storie. Siccome questa cosa mi dà fastidio, combatterò questa situazione. Così non si fa il bene della Roma”. L'attenzione poi si è spostata sul caso-Cassano, ora all'attenzione dell'Ufficio Indagini: "All'Ufficio Indagini potrei dire che parlano i risultati, potrei dire che senza Cassano la squadra vince e con lui no. La formazione la faccio io, tutto è opinabile. Ci vuole anche una forma di rispetto nei confronti di quelli che hanno giocato bene finora, difficile che l'Ufficio Indagini possa incolparmi di qualcosa. Con questo non dico che senza Cassano siamo più forti, ma per migliorarci deve perfezionare tanti punti. Non credo che questo dipenda dalle pressioni dell'ambiente della Nazionale di volere Cassano a tutti i costi, conosco Lippi e so che si comporta correttamente. L'inchiesta è una cosa giusta per capire bene cosa sta succedendo". 首先是针对上午发生的有关卡萨诺和托马西的争议，斯帕莱蒂澄清说：“这种事情经常发生。阿尔瓦雷兹也迟到了。是引发了小小的争议，但没人对此说过什么。目前球队的气氛很正常，卡萨诺的训练比以往更专注。球队在特里戈利亚的训练情况表明了一切。类似的事情（指媒体的传闻——编注）对我造成困扰，我会与此种情况做斗争，非如此不能营造一支出色的罗马。” 提问接着转到卡萨诺续约问题，目前，意大利球员工会正准备介入调查。对此，斯帕莱蒂表示：“对于这一调查，结果说明一切。我要说，没有卡萨诺，球队取得过胜利，也输过比赛。关于球队的阵容我自有主张。考虑到目前为止卡萨诺踢得不错，他上场的渴望值得我们的尊重。麻烦的是球员工会的调查可能会造成一些影响。这样说我并非指没有卡萨诺我们会更强大，但要使我们的实力更为强大，卡萨诺必须在很多方面完善自己。我不相信上述调查是因为国家队不惜代价希望卡萨诺入队的气氛所制造的压力。我了解里皮，我知道他的行事恰当。调查只是为了搞清楚发生了什么事情。”（永恒罗马网） 大家自己看吧。 再PS:似乎是媒体认为，卡萨诺和托马西因为发生争执被打到二线去。斯帕莱蒂作出澄清，说不是惩罚。关于尤文图斯的比赛卡萨诺是否上场，这里没说。再去找找其他资料

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罗马守护神

以下是引用giallorossi在2005-11-12 10:23:54的发言：

没比要上来先给人群区分区分，这个是球迷，那个是粉丝。说得有道理，球迷和粉丝还不都是一样。 至于落井下石一说，倒是颇为新颖。但罗马球迷从来都是卡萨诺的亲友团么？所以现在把背转向他是落井下石。嘿嘿。作为我个人，从来不是卡萨诺的个人球迷，喜欢他，只是因为他是罗马的人。如此而已。即使是个人球迷也没啥大不了，分那么多三五等干吗。只是因此反过来攻击罗马球迷如何如何就比较难解了，也许，人在争论中人都容易上火。 在这件事上，卡萨诺和罗马俱乐部在立场上是对立的。那么这些罗马球迷支持俱乐部，等于支持自己和自己的立场，何来落井下石一说。坚持自己的利益跟别人对立，叫做落井下石。伦理道德的大旗是让我们牺牲自己成全别人？如果那样，我是要落井下石到底的。为什么？因为我们不是傻子。 再，虽然一些人说卡萨诺的行为一再无可指责，我倒想起来了，对于经济问题严重的罗马俱乐部，卡萨诺的行为是不是落井下石？双重的标准。罗马当初对卡萨诺怎么好怎么厚道都是应该的，卡萨诺怎么不厚道怎么落井下石都是可以的。呵呵。我却不这样看。至少要公平对待。别指望着你打了我一巴掌后我还说打得好打得有理。 大家都少给对方扣些帽子，才不会发展为动辄恶语相向的地步。也许有人说最好反对者不要批评卡萨诺，要顾及别人的感情。而我这样看：你可能因为对卡萨诺的批评受到感情上的伤害，但我也因卡萨诺的行为和事件收到了感情上的伤害。我们经历从喜欢到不喜欢，从失望到绝望，所受的伤害不比一些因为批评受伤害的人少。但这也就是纯粹感情而已，那能怎么样？论坛不是大家来说话的么，不是来表达自己的喜好与否的么

顶一个~

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F.托蒂

某些人应该来好好看看这段话吧

齐伍

以下是引用giallorossi在2005-11-12 10:23:54的发言：

没比要上来先给人群区分区分，这个是球迷，那个是粉丝。说得有道理，球迷和粉丝还不都是一样。 至于落井下石一说，倒是颇为新颖。但罗马球迷从来都是卡萨诺的亲友团么？所以现在把背转向他是落井下石。嘿嘿。作为我个人，从来不是卡萨诺的个人球迷，喜欢他，只是因为他是罗马的人。如此而已。即使是个人球迷也没啥大不了，分那么多三五等干吗。只是因此反过来攻击罗马球迷如何如何就比较难解了，也许，人在争论中人都容易上火。 在这件事上，卡萨诺和罗马俱乐部在立场上是对立的。那么这些罗马球迷支持俱乐部，等于支持自己和自己的立场，何来落井下石一说。坚持自己的利益跟别人对立，叫做落井下石。伦理道德的大旗是让我们牺牲自己成全别人？如果那样，我是要落井下石到底的。为什么？因为我们不是傻子。 再，虽然一些人说卡萨诺的行为一再无可指责，我倒想起来了，对于经济问题严重的罗马俱乐部，卡萨诺的行为是不是落井下石？双重的标准。罗马当初对卡萨诺怎么好怎么厚道都是应该的，卡萨诺怎么不厚道怎么落井下石都是可以的。呵呵。我却不这样看。至少要公平对待。别指望着你打了我一巴掌后我还说打得好打得有理。 大家都少给对方扣些帽子，才不会发展为动辄恶语相向的地步。也许有人说最好反对者不要批评卡萨诺，要顾及别人的感情。而我这样看：你可能因为对卡萨诺的批评受到感情上的伤害，但我也因卡萨诺的行为和事件收到了感情上的伤害。我们经历从喜欢到不喜欢，从失望到绝望，所受的伤害不比一些因为批评受伤害的人少。但这也就是纯粹感情而已，那能怎么样？论坛不是大家来说话的么，不是来表达自己的喜好与否的么

兄弟你说出了很多罗马球迷的心声! 狂赞!!!!!

unica

该放弃的放弃

该远走的远走

前程远大不能像托蒂这样被葬送在罗马

那么点年薪负得起的人多了，拿不出来只能说明我们罗马没诚意

毕竟小卡是百年难得一见奇才，托蒂算什么？伊布算什么？吉拉迪诺和亚坤塔还不配跟咱搭档，卡卡给咱传球咱还得考虑要不要接，马拉多纳都夸咱是他接班拧~~

最后，该释怀的释怀，说原谅就没必要了，本来小卡就没欠罗马什么，小卡进过球嘛，给球队带来过积分，给球迷带来过欢乐，罗马也没欠小卡什么，付薪水的嘛。

bleue

这个球员工会的啥主席跑来JJWW，开始扣国家利益的大帽子 简直要笑倒人 啥时候凭借国家利益的旗帜就可以让人牺牲么 倒跟法西斯时代的提倡很相似说~~ 我倒要接着看看，国家利益是如何来扼杀罗马俱乐部的利益的 是罗马弱小好欺负么？呵呵 再PS:假如这个施加压力的做法，是某些有势力的比如说都灵某队运动的结果 （在我看来很有这么些成分在里面） 那么，为国家利益，岂不是为38的利益了？ 罗马牺牲自己利益，岂不是成全了38的利益。天下事到这一地步也算真好笑了。 伪善总是扯着正义的大旗的，向来如此 FA look to solve Cassano case The Italian FA have launched an investigation into the Antonio Cassano case, saying that Roma are acting ‘against the interests of the nation’. The Cassano case has been rumbling on for weeks now with the Giallorossi refusing to play their striker, who is out of contract at the end of the season, until he signs a new deal. Now the Italian FA and the Italian Footballers’ Association have come to Cassano’s aid, claiming that the club have been acting improperly during the saga. "He’s a player of national interest," said Sergio Campana, President of the Players’ Association. "So I think the FA will look to solve the problem. "When a club has to convince a player to prolong his contract by throwing him out of the first team this is against the rules of the game," he added. Cassano is not alone in having been frozen out of the first team. Earlier this season, Udinese took the same measures to persuade Italy striker Vincenzo Iaquinta to extend his contract. Iaquinta was dropped from the team for important games against Barcelona, Juventus and Reggina – all of which resulted in defeats for the Friulani – but the 26-year-old eventually gave in and signed new improved terms. Roma have taken a similar hard line, but with Cassano yet to budge on the matter and the capital’s club sticking to their guns, an ugly impasse has developed. Now the FA feel it is time they got involved. "President Franco Carraro and the FA said that cases such as this are not just a matter between the club and the player, but the entire footballing organisation," continued Campana. "So the FA will look into the matter and examine it thoroughly. "I haven’t got involved because to do so one needs to know every last detail of the relationship between the player and the club. "But President Carraro has invited the League and the Professional Footballers’ Association to study the rules pertaining to cases such as this." Campana gave the example of Bayern Munich who are at risk at losing a large number of their first team players, whose contracts expire at the end of the season. "Bayern Munich have nine players whose contracts are running out, including their captain Michael Ballack." he added. "But they play without any problems. Only in Italy do we have these complications." Carraro, for his part, confirmed that the FA would be looking into the dispute with an open mind. "It is not normal for a club to tell a player whose contract is up in three months that he cannot play," said Carraro. "But it is also not right that a player who scores a hat-trick should suddenly ask for a pay rise. "We intervened in the Iaquinta case and we will do the same with Cassano. Football must realise that contracts must be respected by both parties." Cassano will be hoping the case is resolved quickly as the longer he holds out and doesn’t play, the slimmer his chances are of playing in the World Cup in Germany this summer.

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