解析加西亚3个版本的433战术【叁】

雨过天晴

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我只关心一个问题，楼主怎么知道德桑宝贝大的。

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永恒之狼迷

原帖由 <i>雨过天晴</i> 于 2015-2-13 16:11 发表 <a href="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1143083&amp;ptid=32775" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>
首先，卡劳在科特迪瓦不是首发，首发是伯尼，热尔维尼奥和圣埃蒂安的格拉德尔（Max Gradel），热尔维尼奥停赛的几场首发的都是敦比亚，而非卡卢。其次，加西亚不会让托蒂打边锋，更不会抛弃433踢4231，首发基本上是热 ...

<div><br></div><div>老兄纠错也无妨，我要表述的重点是</div><div>他在国家队和现在的铁打主力伯尼，热鸟的兼容性没有问题，伯尼对几内亚给敦比亚扳平进球的助攻，想必老兄也看了配合过程</div><div><br></div><div>至于他和格拉德尔，卡劳相比，出场排位和时间谁多谁少，谁先谁后，<span style="background-color: rgb(232, 243, 253); line-height: 1.6em; text-align: center;">这个细节不重要，我没太关心</span></div><div><span style="text-align: center;"><font size="3"><br></font></span></div><div><span style="text-align: center;"><font size="3">迪纳塔莱。老迪头最近几年偷偷开发了任意球绝技，水平很牛，射术全面性稳定性还是要高于敦比亚，我先前提法不科学</font></span></div>

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永恒之狼迷

原帖由 <i>batifioroma</i> 于 2015-2-12 20:29 发表 <a href="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1142997&amp;ptid=32775" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>
感觉对敦比亚期望有点过高，国外联赛来到意甲能即插即用的好像很少，适应期总是要的，联赛的氛围，我村的打法，队友的配合，这都需要时间适应<img src="./images/smilies/default/em07.gif" border="0" smilieid="36" alt="&lt;img src=" .="" images="" smilies="" default="" em07.gif"="">"&gt;

<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>敦比亚来过几次意大利踢球，有场欧冠对国米，在梅阿查球场2比1逆转国米 &nbsp; &nbsp;小组出线，他还进了扳平球</div><div><br></div><div>对付意甲后卫，多多少少有点基础，希望他尽快适应，即插即用</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>大家多多讨论，关于后半赛季的战术变化，也许多看看会有新的发现</div><div><br></div><div>我基本是期望为主，瞎猜为主，</div><div><br></div><div>预测性发言，打脸风险很高，<span style="line-height: 1.6em; background-color: rgb(232, 243, 253); text-align: center;">见笑了。</span></div></div>

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永恒之狼迷

<div><b style="font-size: large; text-align: center;">哎！突发奇想，要不，咱写首歪诗总结加西亚这一年半的工作吧。。。。</b></div><div><b style="font-size: large; text-align: center;"><br></b></div><div><b style="font-size: large; text-align: center;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<font color="#ff8c00">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</font></b><span style="text-align: center;"><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><b>豪门秋迪有见地</b></font></span></div><div><span style="text-align: center;"><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><b><br></b></font></span></div><div><b style="font-size: large; text-align: center;"><font color="#ff8c00"><br></font></b></div><div><span style="text-align: center;"><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><b><div>红狼蓝鹰杯赛掐 ，敌方赛后笑哈哈。</div><div>奥斯大帝把人打，铁杆球迷叫渣渣。</div><div><br></div><div>四处求贤遍寻花，看中里尔加西亚。</div><div><b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b><div style="display: inline !important;">临危受命来罗马，不嫌我村底蕴差。</div></b></div></b></div><div><div style="display: inline !important;"><div style="display: inline !important;"><div style="display: inline !important;"><div style="display: inline !important;"><b><b><b><b><b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b><div style="display: inline !important;"><br></div></b></div></b></div></b></div></b></b></b></b></b></div></div></div></div></div><div><b></b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b></b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b></b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b></b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b><b><b><b><b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b><div style="display: inline !important;">旧时防线脆如瓜，面貌一新靠贝纳。</div></b></div></b></div></b></div></b></b></b></b></b></div></div></div></div></div><div><b><div style="display: inline !important;"><b><div style="display: inline !important;">连战连捷美如画，夺冠梦想有戏码。</div></b></div></b></div><div><br></div><div>惊天动地十战佳，初显身手震意甲。</div></b></font></span></div><div><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><b style="text-align: center;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</b><span style="text-align: center;"><b>才赢十场算个啥，球盲休得到处夸。</b></span></font></div><b><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><br></font></b><div><b><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><span style="text-align: center;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font></b></div><div><b><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><span style="text-align: center;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style="text-align: center;">南面娇艳紫白花，北方雄浑米兰家。</span></font></b></div><div><b><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><span style="text-align: center;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style="text-align: center;">斯特罗曼在病榻 ，缺了托蒂要抓瞎。</span></font></b></div><div><b><font size="4" color="#ff8c00">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font></b></div><div><b><font size="4" color="#ff8c00">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font></b><span style="color: rgb(255, 140, 0); text-align: center;"><font size="4"><b>无名之辈加西亚，怎比尤文好电话？</b></font></span></div><div><b><font size="4" color="#ff8c00">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;秋迪遥指小罗马，你哈从来不可怕。</font></b></div><b><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><br></font></b><div><font color="#ff8c00"><span style="text-align: center;"><font size="4"><b>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</b></font></span></font></div><div><span style="text-align: center;"><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><b>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</b></font></span></div><div><font color="#ff8c00"><span style="text-align: center;"><font size="4"><b>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</b></font></span><span style="text-align: center;"><font size="4"><b>励精图治好管家，稳控中场甲天下。</b></font></span></font></div><div><font size="4" color="#ff8c00"><span style="text-align: center;"><b>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</b></span><b style="text-align: center;">力战群雄稀不拉，只输拜仁与三八。</b></font></div><div><b style="text-align: center;"><font size="4" color="#ff8c00">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font></b></div><div><b style="text-align: center;"><font size="4" color="#ff8c00">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;而今买来敦比亚 ，急盼快刀把贼杀，</font></b></div><div><b style="text-align: center;"><font size="4" color="#ff8c00">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;待到军容齐芳华，要与顽敌来争霸！</font></b></div>

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romaleo

好湿

阿提密斯恩崔立

我琢磨着，楼主想的这些，搞不好加西亚压根没想过

永恒之狼迷

原帖由 <i>阿提密斯恩崔立</i> 于 2015-2-13 20:54 发表 <a href="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1143107&amp;ptid=32775" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>
我琢磨着，楼主想的这些，搞不好加西亚压根没想过

<div><br></div><div>我大体还是依照新网官他们的加西亚访谈，来应证自己看比赛后的感官判断，我对意甲普遍的内部训练模式不陌生，也看过流出的加西亚罗马训练视频</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><i>崔立兄，老崔啊 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;你嘲笑我的足球见解我不在意，莫非新闻官他们辛苦弄得那些访谈，也有假？</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i>专业足球人士的思维，绝对不是我们普通球迷那么简单，这是肯定的，但不至于到高深莫测压根没想过那个程度吧，现在网络很发达，球队内部咨询或多或少，或早或晚都有传播，秘密越来越少</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i><b><font size="4">【哎呀，怎么一引用你的全名，字体瞬间变为斜体，还变不回来，你这招厉害啊！】</font></b></i></div>

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永恒之狼迷

原帖由 <i>romaleo</i> 于 2015-2-13 20:35 发表 <a href="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1143105&amp;ptid=32775" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>
好湿

<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>瞎整一通，好玩嘛。</div>

阿提密斯恩崔立

这么明显恭维你看不出来么，还嘲笑[em07]

永恒之狼迷

原帖由 <i>阿提密斯恩崔立</i> 于 2015-2-13 21:40 发表 <a href="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1143112&amp;ptid=32775" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>
这么明显恭维你看不出来么，还嘲笑<img src="./images/smilies/default/em07.gif" border="0" smilieid="36" alt="&lt;img src=" .="" images="" smilies="" default="" em07.gif"="">"&gt;

<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>好好好，我又错了，<img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/smilies/default/em11.gif" style="text-align: center;" smilieid="40" border="0">&nbsp; &nbsp; 这个论坛，不弄点虚拟币，设个赌场，对比赛来点娱乐，让我感觉手痒啊</div><div>还有，应该让普通版友也有对回复的评分资格，现在貌似只有版主有。</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>幸好还有你们这些老板友，可以吹吹闲牛。哈哈</div>

国王德罗西

[em07]  顶LZ  不过这篇YY成分太大

永恒之狼迷

原帖由 <i>国王德罗西</i> 于 2015-2-13 22:30 发表 <a href="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1143117&amp;ptid=32775" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>
<img src="./images/smilies/default/em07.gif" border="0" smilieid="36" alt="&lt;img src=" .="" images="" smilies="" default="" em07.gif"="">"&gt;  顶LZ  不过这篇YY成分太大

<div><br></div><div>是滴是滴，<img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/smilies/default/em03.gif" style="text-align: center;" smilieid="32" border="0"></div><div><br></div><div>那万一呢，万一比我<span style="text-align: center;">YY的还要火爆呢</span><img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/smilies/default/em10.gif" style="text-align: center;" smilieid="39" border="0"></div><div><br></div><div>其实我<span style="text-align: center;">YY的基础除了看比赛，还有热鸟依图都是意甲的突破好手，利亚和佛罗伦齐，伊巴尔博也能辅助，麦孔，小皮，村长的传球也不错，如此强悍的发射架，敦大腿想不火，，，太难了</span></div><div><span style="text-align: center;"><br></span></div><div><span style="text-align: center;">他的第二副驾驶本田圭佑都能7场6球2助攻，一去亚洲杯米兰就赢不了，咱们敦大腿历经多个联赛，打磨这么多年，早就不是新秀，心理技术适应力各方面都已成熟</span></div><div><span style="text-align: center;">能比他差？没天理啊！</span></div><div><span style="text-align: center;"><br></span></div><div><span style="text-align: center;"><br></span></div><div><span style="text-align: center;"><br></span></div>

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Ranieri

支持啊

漱石枕流

加西亚基本的三前锋配置几乎没有改的可能，敦比亚来了无非就是他中锋，托蒂拉边，再配热尔维尼奥；或者托蒂依然中锋，他拉边，配热尔维尼奥。伊巴尔博初始定位也应该是边锋，敦比亚和托蒂都打不了的话会去客串一下中锋。

敦比亚并不是一个站桩式的中锋，他的有球能力在阵地战中作用不会太大，毕竟他不是热尔维尼奥，阵地进攻还是要用他的抢点，但是反击的时候突一下足够使了。伊巴尔博倒可以当一个站桩式的边锋，另外他在边路的冲击力是很霸道的。这两个人的好处是换位了之后依然有用处，这是对罗马来说最重要的地方。虽然敦比亚到了边路不能当热尔维尼奥使，伊巴尔博在中路也没法达到卡瓦尼的效果，但至少技术特点还是能够踢一踢，能够搅乱对方的防守布置就足够了。

永恒之狼迷

原帖由 <i>漱石枕流</i> 于 2015-2-14 15:44 发表 <a href="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&amp;pid=1143133&amp;ptid=32775" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>
加西亚基本的三前锋配置几乎没有改的可能，敦比亚来了无非就是他中锋，托蒂拉边，再配热尔维尼奥；或者托蒂依然中锋，他拉边，配热尔维尼奥。伊巴尔博初始定位也应该是边锋，敦比亚和托蒂都打不了的话会去客串一下中 ...

<div><br></div><div>石大人就是能把我们一些模糊的念头，用他的语言加以梳理清楚，我觉得吧，现在罗马配置的这些队员的类型，丰富多样，各具特色，虽然不能说有多少太厉害的强点，都是具备相当多的组合条件，一句话，加西亚要是再捣鼓不出点名堂，。。。。嘿嘿，恐怕很多人要反水起义，我都有点受不了他啦！！！</div><div><br></div><div>纵观最近8个赛季大多数常态下的意甲冠军，防守硬指标丢球数不能超过30个【国米0809两年靠更强的进攻来弥补，但也只是稍微超标，32个33个，此后再没有超30个的，最高27个】，这是先决条件，防守不过硬免谈冠军。</div><div><br></div><div>进攻呢，队内大体要有三个稳定的得分体，有些是单体个人，有些是2人3人的组合【比如五连冠时期的国米坎比亚索+斯坦科维奇，几年保持15球以上的运动战组合进球数，尤文的马绩效或皮尔洛+比达尔，最近两年又冒出博格巴】</div><div><br></div><div>加西亚啥时候打造出类似的火力，即3个10+爆点，那就差不多啦，靠后卫好弄一堆平局，罗马已经发挥到极致</div><div>不可能再压榨出多少油水，只有向攻击线要成绩！</div><div><br></div>

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