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标题: 终于还是下课了 [打印本页]

作者: 爱上德罗西 时间: 2016-1-13 21:53
标题: 终于还是下课了
官网公告，罗马提前解除与加西亚的合同。加西亚——我一直支持的主教练——终于还是下课了。<o:p></o:p>

恰逢意甲半程结束，他走得不冤。静态：距离榜首7分，是个不小的分差；排名第五，和罗马的投入不符。动态：自11月22日平博洛尼亚开始，球队1胜7平2负，这太令人失望了，像极了上赛季冬窗后的表现。此时不变，更待何时？<o:p></o:p>

既然加西亚已下课，那就可以盖棺定论。先抛个观点：不负罗马。<o:p></o:p>

奥迪跑得比奥拓快，不代表奥迪车主技术比奥拓车主好。除了车技，还需要考虑车子的性能、路况。这是我的出发点：不看球队实力就比较执教成绩，有点耍流氓。如何量化罗马或者任意一支球队的“实力”？我觉得俱乐部球员总身价可以参考——尽管球员身价无法准确反映球员实力，而且球队实力也不是球员实力的简单累加。<o:p></o:p>

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 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
 solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:
 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 AC<span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">米兰<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 212.61<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 10<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
 solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:
 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">国际米兰<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 206.59<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 8<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
 solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:
 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">那不勒斯<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
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 182.70<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 5<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
 solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:
 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">罗马<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 182.16<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 2<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
 solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:
 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">佛罗伦萨<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 164.10<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 4<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
 solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:
 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">拉齐奥<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 104.09<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 3<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="552" colspan="3" valign="top" style="width:413.8pt;border-top:none;
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 border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:.75pt;mso-border-left-alt:1.5pt;mso-border-bottom-alt:
 .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:1.5pt;mso-border-color-alt:windowtext;mso-border-style-alt:
 solid;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 2015/16<span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">赛季<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
 solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:
 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
 11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:
 宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
 mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">球队名称<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
 11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:
 宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
 mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">球队身价<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
 11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:
 宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
 mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">联赛半程成绩<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
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 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">尤文图斯<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 266.14<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 2<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
 solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:
 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">那不勒斯<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 201.81<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 1<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
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 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">罗马<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 185.29<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
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 5<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
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 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">国际米兰<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 182.98<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
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 3<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
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 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
 solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:
 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 AC<span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">米兰<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
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 141.05<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
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 8<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.9pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 solid windowtext 1.5pt;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:
 solid windowtext 1.0pt;mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-alt:
 solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:
 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 <span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:宋体;mso-ascii-font-family:
 "Times New Roman";mso-fareast-font-family:宋体;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
 mso-hansi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">拉齐奥<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
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 123.80<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
 <td width="184" valign="top" style="width:137.95pt;border-top:none;border-left:
 none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 mso-border-top-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-left-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;
 mso-border-alt:solid windowtext .75pt;mso-border-right-alt:solid windowtext 1.5pt;
 padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt">
 9<o:p></o:p>
 </td>
</tr>
<tr>
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"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">人。因此，存在七强身价不升反降的情况。（本赛季意甲注册球员人数下降的趋势依旧延续）<o:p></o:p>

第一个赛季，米兰双雄还在沉沦。托泽曼的福，罗马无需三线作战。加西亚带领球队险些创造奇迹。其实联赛第二又何尝不是奇迹呢？毕竟赛季初鲜有人奢望前三。<o:p></o:p>

第二个赛季，米兰双雄依旧沉沦。很显然，球队远未做好三线作战的准备，几乎没有给尤文一丝压力。托贝大师的福，那不勒斯萎了，罗马勉强捞到第二。重新回到欧冠赛场的罗马，高开低走：第一场大胜（不知道上一次净胜四球是什么时候）；第二场扳平曼城；前两场比赛让罗马有了冲动，要不和拜仁扳扳手腕？于是惨败（没赶上老特拉福德，赶上这茬了）。<o:p></o:p>

这个赛季，意甲陷入群雄争霸。核心更新换代以及赛季初的伤病，尤文起步慢了些，不过凭借雄厚的阵容轻而易举的赶了上来。那不勒斯算是恢复正常的水准，欧联给他们的压力太小了。国米重新加入竞争行列，没有欧战压力，专注防守，像极了13/14赛季的罗马。紫百合一如既往的稳定（始终是第四）。反观罗马却掉队了。尽管欧冠出线，却也是磕磕绊绊，史上最差出线战绩。<o:p></o:p>

剔除前两个赛季表现失常的米兰双雄，罗马的成绩比投入好一些；而这个赛季则是差一截。综合来看，“不负罗马”也不算过分之辞。<o:p></o:p>

这一年多来，论坛里争先恐后得指出加西亚的过错。我再补充一条：加西亚让部分人误以为罗马可以和尤文争冠。开玩笑，上赛季几乎差一个“苏亚雷斯”，这赛季的差距进一步扩大为“内马尔”，两支球队根本就不在一个层次。人可以有梦想，但也需要面对现实。罗马的竞争对手是那不勒斯和国际米兰，球队目标是欧冠资格。<o:p></o:p>

寄语<o:p></o:p>

短期内恐怕改变不了“一超三强”的意甲格局。那不勒斯、罗马和国米，总有一支球队得去打欧联。即使新教练率队第四——不论这个赛季还是下个赛季——都是可以接受的成绩，尽管这听上去有点苦。想要增加征战欧冠的几率，与其在教练身上动脑子不如花点精力在球队实力上。升级球队实力的同时，也别动作太大。毕竟，不是每个教练都可以驾驭首发换七个人的球队。<o:p></o:p>

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作者: playRoma 时间: 2016-1-13 22:00
少一些争论。多往前看吧。<div> </div><div> 与其陷入罗马球员能力身价到底如何的坑。 </div><div> </div><div> 不如谈谈新帅会采用何种战术，如何带领球队走出阴影。</div><div> </div><div> 毕竟这么高兴的时刻，谁还管加西亚那些破事呢。</div>

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作者: CHIVE 时间: 2016-1-13 22:07
记得一年半前我认真看了几场罗马热身赛那时的加西亚地位稳固开始大胆推行自己的足球理念
但看完那些比赛我抛下两句话：这法国人原来啥都不懂！罗马跟着他完全没有前途！

作者: ice_answer 时间: 2016-1-13 22:15
这个身价只能参考，完全是估值，谁会承认米兰在13-14和14-15赛季有着意甲第二的实力？更直观的数据，可以看一线队薪金总和，罗马这两个赛季都是第二名，基本上和联赛排名吻合。

作者: 上彬谦信 时间: 2016-1-13 22:32
再见都懒得和假大师说！

作者: sunyunfengboy 时间: 2016-1-13 22:45
好文，有理有据，私以为身价确实可反应一只球队实力，养了一堆高工资的，出不了什么力的大爷，例如科尔之流，工资总额再高，也无法说明球队实力强!呵呵!其实要比首发11人的工资倒是更为精确!

作者: ZENEM 时间: 2016-1-13 22:53
没人喜欢不愿担责和认错且擅找借口之人。

作者: 阿提密斯恩崔立 时间: 2016-1-13 23:17
谈这个没什么意义

作者: 兰特马利欧 时间: 2016-1-13 23:27

原帖由 sunyunfengboy 于 2016-1-13 22:45 发表
好文，有理有据，私以为身价确实可反应一只球队实力，养了一堆高工资的，出不了什么力的大爷，例如科尔之流，工资总额再高，也无法说明球队实力强!呵呵!其实要比首发11人的工资倒是更为精确!

<div>比工资，罗马妥妥意甲第二，这个每年赛季开始前都有数据，自己翻去</div>

作者: 罗马的云 时间: 2016-1-14 00:27
罗马自卡佩罗开始一直是冠军有力争夺者好吗？

中间除了换帅动荡和俱乐部刚易主那2年，什么时候不是在争冠军？

罗马和尤文争，罗马和米兰，电话门后和国米争，现在又是尤文

罗马虽不是什么顶级豪门，但在意甲也算是这十几年来冠军的热门竞争者

加上这几年俱乐部的投入，球员薪资，阵容厚度，难道不应该和第一有的一争吗？

我们没有奢望永远地赢下去，我们只希望遇到困难，改变克服，团结球队，踢出精彩的足球和罗马的狼性（这也是斯帕莱蒂曾经留给大家的印象）

而不是，每场都一样的XJBT，不行就换球员试手气，自己青训出的苗子不好好培养，净到外面淘换廉价黑人和法甲心腹

输了球怪别人，看不到你的总结和改变，即使我们想支持你，也让这一年多的希望渐渐挥霍成空……<div>感谢你曾经燃起我们的希望，祝福你未来会好</div>

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作者: TheRomaShow 时间: 2016-1-14 00:29

原帖由 ZENEM 于 2016-1-13 22:53 发表 <a href="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1200117&ptid=33381" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>
没人喜欢不愿担责和认错且擅找借口之人。

<div> </div><div>+1  之前也挺喜欢他，但是之后的种种实在让人厌恶。</div>

作者: qazwsx 时间: 2016-1-14 01:05
标题: 标题
君子绝交不出恶言，加西亚也没做出什么对不起罗马的事情，人是那个什么了点，但配得上一个祝福。

作者: 特里戈里亚之狼 时间: 2016-1-14 08:47
transfermarket的身价参考价值有限
不过建议楼主还是过段时间再来评加西亚吧。现在这个时间点，各方情绪都会影响判断

作者: sailorbill 时间: 2016-1-14 09:11
恩里克当初走的时候也是万人踩，看看人家现在多风光。1年之内整个后防线全换的局面没几个教练受得了。

作者: firephoenix 时间: 2016-1-14 09:18

原帖由 sailorbill 于 2016-1-14 09:11 发表
恩里克当初走的时候也是万人踩，看看人家现在多风光。1年之内整个后防线全换的局面没几个教练受得了。

恩里克走的时候罗马本地媒体发起的投票希望换主帅的也就刚过半，而且人自己辞职了，加西亚可是80%的支持换帅了还赖着

作者: 尐飛kk 时间: 2016-1-14 09:23
加西亚是看不到后防的隐患么到处在找边锋，边锋都可以凑成2桌打麻将了。大腿一个个的被加西亚搞残，战术固执死报433、临场指挥等等一切都是加西亚的软肋！

客观来说一个不愿承担后果的主教练都是失败者。

作者: romaleo 时间: 2016-1-14 09:26
人不能躺在功劳簿一辈子！
男人要有担当！

作者: 克莱门特 时间: 2016-1-14 09:44
我很早以前就说过了，冬歇不在前三肯定下课，美国佬的作风一向是这样的，趋势没形成之前可以有耐心的多给点时间，趋势形成了，割肉也得止损。

立了军令状没达成任务，就只能提头来见了，很正常的一件事情，没必要为这个争个十几页，没什么意思。

作者: 七盅醉 时间: 2016-1-14 09:59
我能认为楼主这篇文章是给加西亚洗地鸣不平的吗？我首先觉得transfermarkt的数据就不具有参考价值，不能以球队身价来判断球队排名的合理性，你买了便宜的球员，教练用得好，那自然球员身价会越来越高，比如那不勒斯，除了伊瓜因花了大价钱，其他球员基本都是低价引进之后，踢得好，所以球员身价才越来越高，带来球队身价上涨，球员身价能上涨，除了球员自身水平，教练的执教能力是非常关键的，而反观罗马，投入那么多钱买球员，而教练却用不好，导致球队身价上不去，正说明教练水平不行。

如果真的要判断教练的水平，我觉得看球队每个赛季的净投入更有意义，花了5000万买来的球员是否打出了5000万的价值，如果总是无法打出球员的身价，那不是教练的问题又是谁的问题？

作者: 冰封千壑 时间: 2016-1-14 12:36
第一个赛季还有一些贡献。其实恩里克的罗马实力就可以竞争前列了。因此加西亚的贡献是在其他竞争对手都掉队的情况下，让球队恢复了竞争力。

第二赛季各大竞争对手继续了令人瞠目结舌的掉队，加西亚在三线作战的情况下暴漏了各种缺陷。加上自己又没有什么改进，终于自证不适合于罗马。

作者: 得尔维奇奥 时间: 2016-1-14 12:41
主要是不肯改变，球队踢得越来越差，无论买来什么样的球员，状况依旧，这谁能忍，球队不怕平球或输球，就怕什么都踢不出，后场倒球不会，配合不会，只会一味单干，各自为战，球队主心骨都在，在一起踢了三年球，默契和配合程度还跟着刚认识一样，这谁能忍。

作者: 得尔维奇奥 时间: 2016-1-14 12:42
一只球队既没有场面也没有成绩，谁当主教练都要下课。两头总要占一头吧。

作者: laputa 时间: 2016-1-14 13:13
上个赛季的大黑马拉齐奥，身价起码翻了一倍，为啥？成绩亮眼呗，这赛季踢得烂，身价又跌回去了。
身价这玩意根本没有参考价值，要是能按这个身价来评价或购买球员，想想转会市场会是什么局面……

作者: yu2lin 时间: 2016-1-14 13:25
所谓身价看看就好，德国的转会市场再专业，也和市场真实价格有出入，米兰这些年都是什么货色啊，全队身价还一直居高不下

作者: dpbill 时间: 2016-1-14 14:24
标题: 回复 15# 的帖子
还记得”坑里克“言犹在耳，当时坛子里踩他的人也不少吧？唯成绩论的话，加西亚两年第二，虽然踢得不怎么样，但也不算亏了罗马，后期成绩下滑，没有战术变化，下课也属正常，也无需上升到人格人品的高度。只能说，好走，期待新的教练给罗马带来提升，个人感觉还是要像卡佩罗那样的有冠军气质的教练才能让罗马迈过那道坎，从争冠到夺冠，看看接下来罗马各方面的表现吧。

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作者: 阿提密斯恩崔立 时间: 2016-1-14 14:28
恩里克在本坛确实声名狼藉，到现在还认为他是拴狗冠的大有人在。

我对他还是一直保持基本的尊敬的。

作者: 月光倾城 时间: 2016-1-14 14:38
标题: 除了感谢，加西亚一文不值（转载自FB）
OPINION
Opinion: Garcia deserves nothing but thanks
BY JULIAN DE MARTINIS, 13 hours ago
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When Rudi Garcia took over as coach of Roma, more than a few fans were skeptical whether a Frenchman who had only ever worked in the French league would be able to adapt to Serie A and lead Roma back to greatness.

His task was to take a team that had finished in sixth and seventh and turn it into a perennial Champions’ League entrant and fight for the Scudetto against Antonio Conte’s winning machine at Juventus and the then-newly launched Rafa Benitez revolution at Napoli.

And though towards the end change was inevitable and necessary, he completed what he set out to do, finishing second twice with Roma and leading them to their highet-ever points tally in his first season.

For that, Garcia deserves nothing but thanks.

For taking a team that was full of talent but looking upwards at the top three spots in the league, struggling to make the jump, and turning them into a side strong enough that a first place finish no longer felt like an “if” but a “when”.

For rejuvenating and relaunching the careers of numerous players in his own version of a 4-3-3, dependent upon the quick-releasing passes of Francesco Totti to send Gervinho and company racing down the sides and towards opponents’ goals.

But perhaps most so for taking everyone – truly, everyone – by surprise in his first season when Roma were so thoroughly brilliant, so often, and set numerous records along the way.

For that historic 10-game winning run to start the season, a feat no side in league history had ever accomplished.

For turning back time on Douglas Maicon; for solidifying Mehdi Benatia and Leandro Castan into the best centre-back duo in the league; for adding the grit and nous of Kevin Strootman to complete a harmonic trio with Daniele De Rossi and Miralem Pjanic; for believing in Gervinho and watching him reward the side time and time and time again; for aiding the development of Alessandro Florenzi into Roma’s ultimate utility player, scorer of great goals and hugger of nonnas.

And though the following season and beginning of this one were not quite as spectacular, that debut season was filled with so many great moments that it could easily take up several Blu Rays.

Which Romanisti doesn’t want to watch that ten game winning run again? Or Federico Balzaretti’s strike in the Derby against Lazio? Or Mehdi Benatia’s solo run and forceful finish against Sampdoria? How about Miralem Pjanic’s two deadball goals against Napoli? Or Florenzi’s superbly taken goal against Inter?

That season was remarkable, truly, and allowed Roma and Romanisti to dream again.

That season was Rudi Garcia at his best.

That season was AS Roma at its best.

For his hard work, dedication, revolution and historical impact, Rudi Garcia, we have nothing but warmth, affection, and respect for you.

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作者: 月光倾城 时间: 2016-1-14 14:39
罗马FB官博转载的一个罗马球迷的文章，一会有时间再翻译

作者: 跑江湖 时间: 2016-1-14 14:43
在还没有翻译完之前，建议先跟帖别光发个英文主贴

另外原文标题也不是上面中文写的这个意思

作者: 克莱门特 时间: 2016-1-14 14:44
标题翻译有点奇怪，nothing but在英文里和only是同义的

作者: pippo_02 时间: 2016-1-14 14:52

原帖由 月光倾城 于 2016-1-14 14:38 发表 <a href="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1200355&ptid=33384" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif" border="0"></a>
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Opinion: Garcia deserves nothing but thanks
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When Rudi Garcia took over as coach of Roma, more than a few fans were skeptical whether a Frenchman ...

这文章满篇的感谢之类，被你说成一文不值，断章取义，硬扣帽子，都是这么来的

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作者: pippo_02 时间: 2016-1-14 14:54
我是说官博转发这种骂加西亚的文章不至于吧。。。原来并不是

作者: 阿提密斯恩崔立 时间: 2016-1-14 14:56
真要赞美还走这一步，呵呵。

作者: 特里戈里亚之狼 时间: 2016-1-14 14:58
同志们，英文水平有待提高啊[em08]

作者: pippo_02 时间: 2016-1-14 15:10
For his hard work, dedication, revolution and historical impact, Rudi Garcia, we have nothing but warmth, affection, and respect for you.

作者: 偶像德罗西 时间: 2016-1-14 15:21

原帖由 阿提密斯恩崔立 于 2016-1-14 14:28 发表 <a href="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=1200350&ptid=33384" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.sempre-roma.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif" border="0" alt=""></a>
恩里克在本坛确实声名狼藉，到现在还认为他是拴狗冠的大有人在。

我对他还是一直保持基本的尊敬的。

<div>虽然对恩里克没什么好感，也是XJB用，战绩渣的没法看，但他老人家有一点还是值得肯定的，出问题了一般都自己揽下来，各种借口找的也少</div>

作者: 冰封千壑 时间: 2016-1-14 15:28
让你滚蛋了，再给你个安慰。好比一耳光打的牙掉了，然后再给一颗糖

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作者: pippo_02 时间: 2016-1-14 15:29
恩里克是不是拴狗冠，那是要对比的
譬如对比下贝大师，范加尔等
年度最佳教练，被说成拴狗冠，大概是要说明自己逼格高么？

作者: 月光倾城 时间: 2016-1-14 16:06
标题: 回复 29# 的帖子
不好意思，刚刚去忙别的，仅仅翻译这个标题确实不妥，已删除。

作者: vcd1616 时间: 2016-1-14 16:19
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关键是意思完全翻译错了不过是篇好文，谢分享

作者: 月光倾城 时间: 2016-1-14 16:30
标题: 回复 40# 的帖子
刚才上班的时候用手机只看了眼标题（这标题确实容易误会）然后去忙别的了，本来打算先复制到论坛上来，一会再用电脑翻译。。附上了一个让人误会的标题确实挺抱歉的，现在在翻译中

作者: 月光倾城 时间: 2016-1-14 17:20
其实就是某个加西亚的球迷对其第一个赛季歌颂的文章：

当加西亚刚刚接手罗马的时候，许多的罗马球迷充满了疑虑，因为一个法国人从来只在法国联赛执教，能否适应意甲联赛并且带领罗马复兴充满了未知数。
他的任务是需要将罗马从6到7名的位置带回欧冠，并且需要跟布鲁诺孔蒂的赢球机器-尤文图斯和拉法.贝尼特斯的那不勒斯竞争联赛冠军。

虽然最后的下课时无法避免和必要的，但是他完成了他所要作的，连续两次将罗马带到亚军的位置并且在第一个赛季获得罗马在意甲历史上最高联赛积分。
从这个角度来说，我们对加西亚只有感激之情

他带领的是一个充满了天才，期待能够保持在前三的位置，并且正在努力往前更进一步。如果他能够使罗马带来质的飞跃，那么夺取联赛冠军不再是是否而是何时的问题

他带来了自己的4-3-3阵型。托蒂的快速传球和热鸟在边路的快速突破决定了许多球员在他的阵型中能否焕发足球第二春。

但是很多人，或许是所有人，都惊讶他第一个赛季的表现了。罗马的表现是如此的卓越，如此频繁地创造着记录。

他已一个创造联赛记录的10连胜开始了他的第一个赛季。
他让那个无所不能的麦孔又回来了；他打造了联赛中的最强中卫组合—卡斯坦和贝娜蒂亚；
斯特罗曼的加入给华丽的中场三重奏带来了勇气和精神；信任热鸟，热鸟在边路无数次精彩绝伦的表演也带来了丰厚的回报；他让弗洛伦奇获得长足的进步，使他成为罗马队中一个及其实用的球员，一个专门进伟大和不寻常进球的得分手。

虽然接下来的赛季的表演不是那么的如意，但是首个赛季充满了如此多伟大的时刻，我们不应该轻易忘却。
哪个罗马人不想再看到10连胜重现？不想看到巴尔扎雷蒂对阵垃圾时精彩的进球？不想看到贝纳蒂亚对阵桑普时单刀赴会一条龙的进球？不想看到皮亚尼奇对阵那不勒斯的两个任意球得分？不想看到弗洛伦奇对阵国米时候的超级进球？

那个赛季是显着的，而且可以让罗马和罗马人再次梦想得到。

那是加西亚最好的赛季
那是罗马最好的赛季

[ 本帖最后由月光倾城于 2016-1-14 17:27 编辑 ]

作者: firephoenix 时间: 2016-1-14 20:38
像是前年写的，后面一年半只有一句[em05]

作者: 偶像德罗西 时间: 2016-1-14 22:41
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赶紧改，安东尼奥·孔蒂

作者: 马罗 时间: 2016-1-16 12:53
正想找个地方感谢加西亚，看到这个帖子正好借地说两句。我认同LZ的观点，不过论坛很多朋友认为身价是估的，只有薪资才是实实在在的，那就说一下薪资。

罗马并不是拥有薪资意甲第二的球员所以拿到联赛第二，这是搞反了因果关系，事实是加西亚率领球队夺取亚军后，球员的待遇水涨船高升至第二。现在我们的夺冠赔率可以排到第二也是因为教练将球队带到了这个高度，有兴趣的可以去查一下加西亚刚来时罗马的薪资和赔率在第几。

另外，上赛季加西亚连续换下托蒂，而赛季结束时托蒂还跑出来说我在加西亚手下踢球很开心，这是从来没有罗马主帅做到过的。关于队长的合理使用这条路，拉涅利走了一半，之后的教练不但没有走下去还返回了原点。现在加西亚把这条路走了大概90%，对后面的教练会有很大帮助。

很遗憾加西亚未能和这支罗马走到最后，这段经历对一个教练来讲并不算十分成功，所以今后的执教生涯肯定也不会一帆风顺，但还是祝他一路走好。

作者: 马罗 时间: 2016-1-16 12:57

原帖由 月光倾城 于 2016-1-14 17:20 发表
他带领的是一个充满了天才，期待能够保持在前三的位置，并且正在努力往前更进一步。如果他能够使罗马带来质的飞跃，那么夺取联赛冠军不再是是否而是何时的问题

这段不是很通顺，我改一下：

这个充满才华的团队本来的目标是希望有机会打进联赛前三，而加西亚率领他们实现了质的飞跃，让人觉得这支球队甚至马上就能夺取冠军。

文章标题的正确理解应该是加西亚虽然未能赢得任何锦标，但理应感谢

作者: 爱上德罗西 时间: 2016-1-16 19:21
身价是我选择的一个切入点。当然，评估球队实力不只有这一个切入点。薪资也是很不错的参考。至于哪个更合适，暂不作评价。私以为，薪资有一定的时差。同样的，身价也有问题，比如较大的主观性。

部分言论，在我看来是落井下石，大约是生活所迫吧。有些评价，似乎和球队表现并不一致，或许是概括性太强的缘故。

往前看，希望斯帕莱蒂本赛季带领球队杀回前三。差国米5分，还有机会。

作者: qingjiuyidi 时间: 2016-1-18 08:19
我同意楼主的基本判断，加西亚确实有了江郎才尽的趋势，但纵观他这几年的率队综合表现，不负罗马。

作者: roma2013 时间: 2016-1-18 08:40
加西亚之于名帅一步之遥，但这一步确实也割断了许多教练的名帅之路

作者: 风行烈 时间: 2016-1-18 09:18
运气也是实力的一部分体现，我不担心加西亚，担心罗马!

作者: maradona 时间: 2016-1-21 10:28
论运气加西亚很好名但是真的到瓶颈了。

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